You can see from the above that God decreed several things for Adam to honour and obey. What an amazing thing to be able to do. If He was walking, then this must have been a theophany - a pre-incarnate appearance of the Second Person of the Trinity. Job 38:1 states, The YHWH answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:. What do you think?? they heard him rebuke them. We know that the Israelites did eat some of their animals during the year. Why dont Adam and Eve know that God is with them at all times? 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, >>>>>and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. I agree that youre right to the extent that believers should be mindful to validate sermons, statements or stories from pastors. To be clearagain. Hi Daniel, I know this article about Adam and Eve walking with God in the Garden is over 6 years old, but I just now discovered it. Awesome, you as a Dad leading his children, as the word instructs. How cool would that be! God bless you. I think your comments were probably addressing this point though (http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747). Please do look it up, and if you find it, let me know, so I can apologize and correct this post. "Until the cool of the day when the shadows flee away, Turn, my beloved, and be like a gazelle. Now at that time there was an evil spirit called Satan. We know that God was with Adam and Eve at all times and wherever they were. Here is a link to the Wikicommons page showing that this illustration is in the public domain: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schnorr_von_Carolsfeld_Bibel_in_Bildern_1860_009.png. They could not walk in the garden naked anymore, and they had to defend their actions. Lets consider this for a moment? But your claim is based on only such a narrow standard. They had all they could ever want. Im not sure that it necessarily follows that there would be ongoing communion and communication between God, Adam, and Eve. 9 And JEHO. With this particular issue, the reason I addressed it is because I hear it so frequently. Lord God (pre-incarnate Jesus Christ) was also the burning bush that app. This walking refers to living a life that pleases God. It says that he went to the land of Nod and then she conceived a son (Enoch). September 13, 2019. I never really gave it much thought that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden.God can and does whatever He wants to do. They are not taking a leisurely stroll with God, they are hiding from Him as He comes to announce His judgment. Whirlwinds dont speakunless it is God appearing in that form. Although Exodus established that God was present everywhere through the judgement on Egypt, it also taught that God would be present in a special way in the tabernacle (later to be replaced by the temple). However, I dont see how your final statement about the garden has any relevance. God Was Angry. God then created Eve, "a helper comparable to him" (verse 18). . What if Adam and Eve were not human as we are today. It bothered me for the day into right now where I went on the internet to find something credible and I landed here. In order to answer the question of why God created Adam and Eve naked we first need to look as some Scriptures which show that the Bible uses clothing is a symbol of our character. Some people have inferred from this statement that they must have known what it sounded like to hear God walk in the Garden so they must have walked with Him before. Not all of the time of course, how else would they have rebelled against Him. Even if this translation is accurate, which is debatable, it does not say that they walked with God. Adam and Eve are walking around in the Garden of Eden, and they meet up with this serpent who asks them an interesting question: "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the . Adam and Eve obeyed God. This is stated in the incident where Moses disobeyed by striking the rock instead of speaking to it (Numbers 20:1011). It was always my thought they in fact walked side by side as one would imagine them doing so. Hi Carrie, I had always taken it for granted too that God walked with Adam in the cool of the day which He very well might haveand Id like to use my imagination and believe that He did but the Bible definitely doesnt say that He did. As I mentioned in the conclusion of the article, it is certainly possible that the Lord walked with Adam and Eve, and if He did, then it may well have been the preincarnate Christ who walked with them. If youve been impacted by our resources, we invite you to make a year-end gift before December 31. God appeared and revealed Himself in many different ways throughout the Old Testament. I think your criticism of my article misses the mark. Adam was ashamed to stand before God as he was now a sinner who was about to face his righteous God. Sorry for the delayed response. What can we honestly infer from the scriptures? Since the Bible doesnt make this claim, its impossible to know for sure where people get the idea from. Hi David, But we need to be careful not to assert that the Bible directly teaches this. Therefore, We also should not assume that God was at their beck and call so that He would come around for a stroll with them whenever they wanted Him there. We do see examples of theophanies in the Old Testament where God does appear to people in human form, as He did to Abraham. Tim, thanks for striking the axe at the root of this human imagined concept. In each case, they are basing their ideas on something that isnt stated in Scripture. To say that life was good in the Garden of Eden would be an understatement. The first words recorded from Eve are from her encounter with the serpent. I think your comments are valid additional arguments that could be used by those who favor that view, but as you seem to recognize (it seems to follow), the arguments are not watertight. Genesis 3:8 Can you imagine what it must have been like in the garden of Eden, before sin entered the world? I think for me it comes from the song In the Garden, it is a peaceful way to think God is walking with us. I think all conservative Christians would agree that this happened. This saddens me. Our hearts were reformed for this exact purpose. What an absolute honor we have as human beings to be made in the image of the Creator and to be called to demonstrate who He is and what He is like. I believe the context of the above verse was a time when ADAM was NOT at enmity with God and they conferred with each other. If I give full and clear credit to you with a link to your illustration Adam-Eve-Shame as follows: http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?attachment_id=1350. Thanks for this article, it was an interesting read. Hello Tim. Tim. I am simply trying to point people back to Scripture as Ive done in many other posts in my Misused Verses series. In all likelihood, it comes from a misunderstanding of or making an inference from Genesis 3:8: And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day (NKJV). Two things that they did see. I know when I say that Adam walked with God in the Garden, I mean to say that God spent time with them, not literally walking in the garden, God doesnt walk, He is Spirit! I completely agree that Adam and Eve had the freedom to obey or disobey regarding the forbidden fruit, but that doesnt really have anything to do with my point in this post. No, the One they were hiding from was one they were familiar with walking in the garden. It was a choice that they both made in full knowledge of what was right and wrong. However, I also notice in chapter 2 that Adam recognized God speaking (commanding) to him concerning the forbidden tree. Totally agree with you to know that not everything was told to us, but take what we are told and use it for good, not for argument. Why werent they mentioned? The Lord could speak from His throne and these actions could be performed just as easily as if He had manifested in the garden to perform the actions. You claim the following, which I label as CLAIM #1. We speak of ourwalk with God, yet dont speak of Him being right there physically. Adam said, I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself (Genesis 3:10, ESV). Canada AKA Commie Da under seditious King/Crime Minister Justin Trudeau!! To add to the post above, another theological consideration is the temple. Thanks for your thoughts on this. I would be with this item all day and be close to me at nite. The animals possess none of these characteristics, at least not to the same degree as man, so these seem like strong possibilities for what it means to be made in Gods image. Adam doesnt need to know instantly that it is God moving about, but once God speaks to Him (whether out of a whirlwind or appearing in human form or any other form) then Adam recognizes who is addressing Him. When God asked them how they knew they were naked, and asked them if they had eaten from the tree they were not to. As I mentioned in my post, I have absolutely no problem with the idea that they might have walked with God in the garden. Thank you and God bless you! Adam and Eve loved to . Answer (1 of 22): Yes. I agree with you that we cannot say with certainty that God walked with them, I am just here to point out that the language suggests a repetitive habit of God. But as seasoned believers we need to understand it is better to use our hearts to hear the sermons the pastors preach rather than the details of the text. In the plain reading of Genesis 1-3, we learn that God created the first two people: Adam and Eve. Seems to me there was plenty of interaction & communication between Adam (& Perhaps Eve) and God. This just isnt found in the text and seems very unlikely in light of the details given in the post. I appreciate the encouraging words. It says, "they heard the sound of God walking in the garden", and, " they hid themselves from the presence of the Lord. This would still fit with the idea of God coming in judgment, which was given as a possibility in the article. In other words, he wasn't Jesus of Nazareth walking . Dont you think that Adam and Eve being new and first created that God would have been extremely close to them ? Its not that the inferences are necessarily wrong, its that they should not be mistaken for the Word of God. That is why I have a whole series of commonly misused Bible versesnot to condemn but to encourage believers to elevate Scripture above our own ideas that weve unwittingly added to it. And it was a good animal and God was pleased. Adam replies saying that he hid because he heard the sound of God. They consisted of both physical and spiritual components, just like all of their descendants, although originally they were without sin. 9 But the LORD God called out to the man, "Where are you?" 10 "I heard Your voice in the garden," he replied . Can a whirlwind fulfill those processes? In Job, God spoke out of the whirlwind. Tim, thank you for your commentary. And maybe that is it, people just want to believe they they did as that is such a powerful feeling knowing God is walking with you. Then something happened. The chronology of the genealogy of the man is followed throughout the Bible. Behold we shall not sow,nor gather in our increase: now look at 21 Then I will command my blessing upon you in the sixth year and it shall bring forth fruit for 3 years 22 and you shall sow the 8th year and eat of the old fruit until the 9th year until the fruits come in. But then you had already stated this was possible. AMOS 3:3 CAN 2 WALK TOGETHER UNLESS THEY BE AGREED? It does not say that God drove Adam and Eve, or the man and the woman, out of the Garden of Eden. they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the gardenThe divine Being appeared in the same manner as formerlyuttering the well-known tones of kindness, walking in some visible form (not running hastily, as one impelled by the influence of angry feelings). You may be reaching for your Bible right now to prove me wrong. I could not find it. After all, they had not experienced or seen death as of yet. God also provided quail for a whole month (Numbers 11:1920). Theres no definitive proof, but the passages implication seems clear to me. Theologians have long wrestled with the very concept of being made in Gods image. The complete bible account of the story of Adam and Eve can be found in Genesis 1:26 to Genesis 5:5. Maybe He was physically there throughout the short time that they were in the Garden, but I have my doubts., By a plain reading, Genesis 2:7 and 2:22c reasonably are inferred to imply that the place where God formed Adam, and then Eve, was a place some way *outside* of the garden (and this place likely being that of the shore of a river or a sea). Whats not fine with me is saying that the Bible says something that it doesnt. Regardless of whether you translate the disputed phrase as cool of the day or strong wind, the text still says that God was walking in the cool of the day / wind (of the day). So what did they hear in the Garden? Genesis 3:1-12; 21-24. Who is this that would kill him? It would be accurate if the point of my article was to claim that Adam and Eve did not walk with God in the Garden prior to sin. Thank you so much. The idea of God openly talking and physically walking with Adam and Eve is that God is interested in humans and want to develop a close friendship with them. That he still comes to them even after theyve sinned emphasizes that they have made the first move away from him, before he moves them away from Himself by putting them out of Eden. And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day (Genesis 3:8).The use of the term walk with reference to God brings up the issue of God communicating to humankind in human language. WHY? No sowing or reaping for 3 years! And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. Walking with god is living with god he makes it very clear how we are to walk with him. Adam and Eve, according to the Old Testament, are the First Humans who ever walked on earth from which all humans descended. So what if he didnt say the words in genesis one would think you would be wise enough to figure it out its not hard. God also brought the animals to Adam so he could name them. Ok, we have God as a highly elevated being that perhaps didnt want to spend timewith all of this. Adam and Eve lived in the Garden of Eden, surrounded by fruit trees and beautiful things. 1. God then planted a garden 'eastward in Eden' (2:8), containing both the tree of life and 'the tree of knowledge of good . There are some who says He came in angelic forms throughout the Bible yes He did but thats through another likeness. I will make a helper suitable for him" ( Genesis 2:18 ). I hope you will continue in the pursuit of God's Truth. Hi Greg, Verse Concepts. Thanks for reading and taking the time to share your thoughts. Adam and Eve Hide From God. The Lord God Walking in the Garden. No, I mean that God must have spent time with them in order to teach them, how else would they learn to talk, to till the land, to eat, to basically live their lives in a way that was pleasing to Him! Bible Answer: They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. Yes, Jesus is God and was in the beginning with God, but the part about the Word becoming flesh and dwelling among us (John 1:14) is a reference to the Incarnation that began when He was conceived in Marys womb. I happened on this post because the thought came to my mind that God only walked with Adam, not EveI do not know why I had the thought, and I had not checked Gods Holy Word on the issue, but I read your article which partly validated my thought in an unexpected way. I would assume that they drank goats milk during this time as well. He was their friend. God created human beings to have fellowship with him. 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. Thanks for caring about biblical accuracy. Hi Sam, Of course, Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden, its written right there in Genesisumahis it 3? How do I know? And a good place to start is The Garden of Eden. Now turn to Chapter 4 of Genesis verse 13 Cain said to the Lord, My punishment is more than I can bear. the Word of God walked in Eden. I think you misunderstand what was meant by the possibility of God coming in the wind. Adam blamed the woman, the . So there is no need to appeal to some sort of walk in the garden for them to know Gods voice. This is very important to walk with god on this because if they didnt walk with god by keeping his commandments sabbaths and statutes then there would be no rain. You have argued that a strong wind would be a better translation, but you havent explained how it was that Adam knew that this was the sound of God as soon as he heard it. It is possible that the Lord taught them how to do certain things, as you say, but it certainly wasnt necessary. Yet now the man and the woman are hiding from God in fear. Was it God walking or was it something different? Read lev 25:20 and if you shall say what shall we eat in the 7th year? And I think a strong case can be made for the notion that they werent in the garden very long at all. The same (principle) applies to the natural reading of anything: that according to the thing itself. Thanks again for reading! It says, coats of skin. Adam and Eve were ashamed of what they had done and afraid to face God, so they hid in the trees. And they heard the sound of the Lord God, walking in the garden. Thanks for your question. What if the coats of skin were actually human skin as we have now. This post isnt about whether they enjoyed fellowship with Him prior to sin and walked with Him in a metaphorical sense. It doesnt say that they were walking with God. may I use your illustration in a short story that I will submit for publication on a non-commercial website (perhaps only my own personal website, if I cannot find acceptance at a more widely viewed site)? If you want to try to build a case for the possibility, thats fine with me too. There is no need to attribute the work to me. My guess is that they would not have had nearly enough animals to eat over their forty year wandering. I dont know if I will recieve a responce or not, but it does not say that God made them skins from animals. My goal in these types of blog posts is to encourage believers to look carefully at the text. No human can view the full reality of God and . Both Adam and Eve, and all humans today, were made in God's image (Genesis 1:26-27; 5:1). I think that would be fantastic. #2 They both "saw" their nakedness. Genesis 3:8 Context. But what did they actually hear that made them afraid? Can you show me some similar articles? However, most people inevitably mention them walking in the cool of the day, so they arent thinking of it in the figurative sense. Adam and Eve said, 'Lord, when we were in the garden, You walked with us every day. Adam and Eve as well as other people born during the no-sin era. In that claim, I put your OWN verbatim in single quotes. 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Regarding your logic in your blog post here, titled, Did Adam and Eve Walk with God in the Garden? (Meditating upon God's Word makes it a consistent part of our daily . He never showed him self He when He was showing himself to Moses and the others He revealed himself to in some other form. God goes to great lengths to explain how he wants the relationship to be. God walking with people normally suggests closeness and intimacy and fellowship. With that in mind, what makes you say, from the text of Genesis, that the phrase translated cool of the day would be better translated a strong wind? If strong wind is the better translation, when prior to this event did God manifest himself to Adam and Eve in a strong wind in such a way that when they heard the strong wind on this occasion, they knew instantly that it was the sound of God? This is a different subject. They hid when they heard God; however it was that they heard Him. Useful insights. We "Walk With God" in Meditating upon His Word. It was part of the sad deception that the man and woman who wanted so much to be like God, rather than obtaining the stature of deity, are afraid even to commune with him. Another potential source for this idea is found in the statements made about those who did walk with God. But arguments from silence are not strong arguments to build a positive case for something. 15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. Adam and Eve's Separation from God . The article is not imposing a narrow standard that makes no room for inference or implication. He could have done it audibly from the heavens, or He could have spent time with Adam in the garden. Hi Warren, document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Did Adam and Eve Walk with God in the Garden? Would that seem that they must have heard His voice at some other time. They probably werent in the garden for very long at allperhaps just a few days to a few weeks. Second, Eve was made from Adams rib (or more accurately side), indicating that they both had physical bodies (Genesis 2:21). For the record, I strongly reject such a notion. They are not taking a leisurely stroll with God, they are hiding from Him as He comes to announce His judgment. Im not sure what that accomplishes other than allowing for the possibility that they might have, which is something I have said from the start. God did really walked with man physically, reasons: then Adam was sinless, only sin can hide God from us, so why should God hide himself from a sinless being? For example, the Passover lamb was to be eaten (Exodus 12:8). "Until the cool of the day. They turned to their own ways, sinful ways. In Lev 26 god goes into great detail about how they were to walk with god and how god would walk with them ( please dont say ohhh but it doesnt say it) it does say very loudly its deafening. I just dont get your argument. Perhaps some people may have this figurative sense in mind when they speak of our first parents walking with God. Adam did hear Gods voice at another time. Anyway, Im very surprised I forgot to include a link to an article on theophanies that I wrote for Answers in Genesis. It is doubtful that God threw Adam into a confusing environment where he would be overwhelmed with the array of plants and animals. The goal of this post is to encourage people to take a closer look at the Bible instead of repeating what theyve heard. To the second point in your conclusion, I think it is quite speculative. They and their children would experience sickness, pain, and physical death. constant) communication with God (e.g., the angel in Daniel 10:13 who was withstood by the prince of Persian for 21 days until Michael came to help him). The Bible doesnt say that, and that is the point of the article. Many people assume that this one verse is symbolic, as . (Posted on October 30, 2014, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349). Suggestions include that it means we are made as rational creatures that can communicate with and worship God, or that we have been given dominion, or that we will live forever. Also, when Adam and Eve were created, I dont believe they were automatically filled with knowledge as how to take care of themselves, the animals, the garden,etc The Bible doesnt say that Cains wife was from Nod. The sound of God that Adam heard was not the sound of God speaking, because God speaks after Adam has hidden himself, which Adam only does after he hears the sound.. Satan. And how many times is this a supporting argument for a main point or the main point itself? Sincerely, One of my Bible study ladies commented about the command to not eat of the fruit lest they die as possibly being a mystery to Adam and his wife. I guess its just hard to let go of certain ideas, but we must always allow our thinking to be challenged by what Scripture actually says rather than what we want it to say. You havent dealt with this in your explanation. 9 GOD made all kinds of trees grow from the ground, trees beautiful to look at and good to eat. Of course, the eternal Son, the Word by whom the Father made all things has always been present at the Father's right hand. Just a quick note: The verb used here in verse 8 to describe the divine movement of God mihalli (sorry, my keyboard isnt able to type this word out correctly) suggests iterative and habitual aspects. No? Its one thing to believe that Adam and Eve walked with God and to recognize that its based on some fairly reasonable assumptions. God bless! Sin Of Walking. If Im narrating a scene, I can write that the main character heard a certain sound (e.g., an approaching truck or an army on the march) before the character realizes what it is that he is hearing. Adam & Eve had been very naughty and they were hiding from the Lord!! However, were here to serve everyone without cost, so please dont feel obligated to give unless the Lord leads. when they heard God walking in the garden, they hid from God. I appreciate your effort Tim, thank you. I appreciate your fidelity to Gods Word. If how we are not that naive to believe that this is a new thing with Him, no we can reasonably infer that God spent time with Adam and Eve. When God said, Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat Adam knew what a tree was, what the garden was, and what eating was. 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